While I have to agree with your assessment, this "clown" is the Potus. He is a very dangerous Potus. Time will show everyone just how dangerous he is.

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Hear Hear.

And time will tell how strong the American people are still and whether or not we have spines anymore as a people.

Then again a true patriot is not well liked in times of peace, but when liberty is on the rails and the train is running counter(to the camps he says to the camps) suddenly a patriot is a commodity with great value.(Research the run on Charlton Heston's guns during the R.King riots)


We will see

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Stay tuned.

Every day now, I expect to rise to discover that Israel has hit Iran and the Middle East is on fire. When this happens, it will not take long to spread to America. I am actually afraid that this will keep us distracted from where our attention really needs to be. The continued loss of our Liberty. That, to me, is the real issue.

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I pay attention to world news only enough to have some idea of the strategies that the Potus and his cronies may attempt.
As turbo Timmy stated like a true Marxist "let no crisis pass by unused"(Its not about Dems and publicrats anymore. They have the same mission just using different tactics focused on different populace scopes)

I am seeing more suicides/shootings among other things in the news and I am not fooled. I would bet even money that if you account for the upswing reported you will find that its not actually an upswing at all but one that is only now being moved to the forefront of the propaganda machine to start mentally training the sheep. Get them agitated so that they start calling for controls on the 'those evil guns' so that the NEW AWB will be smooth sailing.

It really is 1984 when you look at how the Main Streams control the general populi.

I remember talking to some local while in Dubai during the early ninties and him stating that he had great respect for the US military but not one ounce of respect for americans in general. He stated that we were lazy and unjustifiably arrogant(meaning we were resting on the Laurals of our founding fathers)
I am now seeing what he meant then. Like anything in life: the minority suffer at the whims of the majority. Now if this were the military the majority would suffer for the failures of the minority. We have been operating on Positive feedback for far too long. No machine can handle that without negative repercussions. Now the machine has been modified to ignore the few remaining sources of negative feedback(IE voting) and the governer is broken on the ignition system. This machine is running hot and fast and the wheels are starting to come off.

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The world was here first, it owes you nothing. Count yourself fortunate if you get all you've earned. Count yourself a thief if you get what others have earned. Count yourself a parasite if you believe you're entitled to it.-Mark Twain

The gun thingie just started today. Only thing is that the so-called crime wave is not their excuse. Believe it or not, our problem with owning guns has everything to do with drug cartels in Mexico. How original!

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...but whose neck are they concerned about?

Senate Proposal Could Put Heavy Restrictions on Internet Freedoms

A proposed bill that would give the president widespread power to shut down the Internet in the event of a cyberattack could have sweeping implications on civil liberties.

By James Osborne
Senate Proposal Could Put Heavy Restrictions on Internet Freedoms - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com

The days of an open, largely unregulated Internet may soon come to an end.

A bill making its way through Congress proposes to give the U.S. government authority over all networks considered part of the nation's critical infrastructure. Under the proposed Cybersecurity Act of 2009, the president would have the authority to shut down Internet traffic to protect national security.

The government also would have access to digital data from a vast array of industries including banking, telecommunications and energy. A second bill, meanwhile, would create a national cybersecurity adviser -- commonly referred to as the cybersecurity czar -- within the White House to coordinate strategy with a wide range of federal agencies involved.

Others are concerned about the potential erosion of civil liberties. "I'm scared of it," said Lee Tien, an attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a San Francisco-based group.

"It's really broad, and there are plenty of laws right now designed to prevent the government getting access to that kind of data. It's the same stuff we've been fighting on the warrantless wiretapping."

Remember that it was Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W. Va, who introduced the bill.

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It's totally unrealistic to try to interpret the constitution according to the "original intentions" of the founding fathers, because we can't be absolutely sure what those were in the first place !
And furthermore, the country has changed so vastly since that time that this is absolutely impossible . There's absolutely no way that the government today can govern the way things were done over 200 years ago.
Back then, there were only about 3 million people here; now we have 300 million and steadily growing. There are so many different ethnic groups and religions, so many differing groups for or opposed to this or that and economic conditions are infinitely more complex and problematic .
How do we know what the founding fathers thought about abortion ?
That wasn't even an issue back then ! If any of the founding fathers had even mentioned abortion at a meeting,let alone banning it, the others would have thought he was out of his mind !
Or gay rights ? That wasn't an issue either. Homosexuality wan't discussed in polite company .

The way I understand it, abortion is an issue for the individual states, not the government. The same would apply for "gay rights" whatever that is as well as gun control and many other issues the fed has taken upon itself to impose on the states. We are supposed to be a republic. That would work regardless of the population

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"When a government betrays the people by amassing too much power and becoming tyrannical, the people have NO CHOICE but to exercise their original right of self defense- to fight the government"
Alexander Hamilton

Oh, it's not too difficult. If one studies the event, people, and documents themselves. If one picks up this information and simply, with an open mind, tries.

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I find it difficult to talk to people that take the bumpersticker philosophies of the Liberal/progressive movement and think that they are 'educated and worldly'.

230 years really isn't that long ago. Our founders made it quite clear what their intentions were with the writing of those documents. They set up means to 'tweak' and 'adjust' as the country grew. THE STATES were to be the power base after THE PEOPLE and the Federal Government was to answer to the first two. NOT THE WAY IT IS NOW WHERE THE STATES COW DOWN TO THE FED AND THE PEOPLE ARE SCARED FOR THE FUTURE OF THEIR CHILDREN.

To give you some credit though, the people that wrote that document were of two minds then too. The Federalists and the Anti-Federalists. You want an education in what they were thinking you should go read those letters and see how much intrigue was really going on then. This little two sided battle has been going on as long as this country has been alive. Noting new here other then the level of separation that we are seeing.
this is a moot argument. Of course they didn't talk about it because there wasn't any thing to talk about then. They didn't even know that such a thing was possible.
These things need to be at a state level just as the founders stated, just as Eagle just stated. If you don't like the way the state you live in handles things like Abortion, Gay rights, Civil liberties(an oxymoron) etc MOVE! (been very seriously considering that move myself recently) But if the Federal Government has its say, we will all have to live like the guy next door and the guy next door to him ad infinitum. NO THANKS. You may comfortable with somethings like gay rights, or Animal rights. I am not. I haven't a problem with people being gay but the leave me out of it. I don't care if you are able to be married or not as I see that union being made between two people and NOT THE GOVERNMENT. (why do you need a license to get married? explain that one to me please.)

Sadly we are getting the Government you want.

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