OORAH!!!!!!!!

He nailed it.

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It would be interesting if the citizens would "storm" the capital and make a citizen's arrest.

Not just of Obama but all the congress and senate. Then go through the "classified info" and figure out who is a traitor, who is just dumb and who is just a crook.

The few good ones, like Ron Paul would be placed as acting President, ect...till the mess is sorted out.

Everything would have to be open to the public. All the "secretes" and so called "national security issues." (Let's face it...our military is so over powering there is no outside threat to our security....unless ET is planning an invasion.)

I would love to see the citizens arrest the government, expose the corruptions and wipe the slate clean. Start all over with newly elected officials from the states.

And in NYS, I would like to see the same thing happen to albany. The citizens take back control, arrest the government and sort out the mess that has been made.

Now that is something I would be happy to be a part of. All of this calling, emailing, faxing, sitting in the frickin cold, Getting hoarse from chanting 'hate speech', is getting quite old. They aren't listening and if that hasn't become obvious to all that are upset with this mess, they are more stubborn than I.

Tax rebellion would work though how long we could maintain control afterwards would have to be seen. Physical overthrow of the tyrants would be much more satisfying in many eyes. Especially if those that are to blame are held accountable.(sadly many of them are dead as this has been building for going on a Hundred years.)

Let the truth out and I think that many that were on the other side of the fence would wake up at that point and see the lies for just that.

Nice pipe dream though. I think its going to be much uglier and a lot messier than that scenario.

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I would agree that this would be appealing to almost every good (true) citizen. Some items though are not, or would not be, good to see. While we might disclose some of their corruption, to reveal everything, would be very dangerous to the country. The public does not have the right to know everything. Sorry.

Then this raises the questions as to who would decide what gets revealed and what doesn't. The biggest concern is how to control such an uprising. While Jefferson would have been all for us to revolt, and actually was active in the French Revolution, let's take a look at the French. Say if only because they were an established power and we were not? Well, we are now that established power and can learn some lessons from the difference between the two Revolutions. Assuming that ours today would look much more like the French than our own in 1776. In their revolution, it was much bloodier and became more of a feeding than revolution. Do we want that to take place here? I don't think so.

My point? Is that while this might be appealing, we must first become organized, recognize our leaders (both necessary to effect a Revolution), and must have clearly defined goals (other than independence). We must maintain law, as an institution. We cannot simply go around killing everyone who is rich or works for the FedGov. If people are suspected, then they can be held under house arrest until the facts of their cases can be revealed. Then they will either be released or tried. In fact, there should be very few executions and those being primarily for treason or corruption within the old government structure. Things such as wasteful spending might accompany a lengthy stay of incarcertaion, but not death. In other words, there must be well defined parameters in the next Revolution. It must be a controlled event.

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hear hear. I agree.


And thats why I don't see it happening. I also agree that there are some things that the general public hasn't any need to know. I

I think when it comes to the economy that full disclosure of how the Fed works and an audit of that system, How the treasury works and a FULL audit of that mess including the last 10 secretaries of that office would be in order, among other aspects. We know through historical reference that keeping the Treasury intact and responsible within the FedGov worked. Farming the monetary system out has, will have, has had, issues, and is notoriously corrupt in and of itself. (Jackson knew it and Kennedy did too.)

Incarceration would be in order but I also feel that when/if these things come about that the whole judicial/punishment system needs completely revamped and that whole "cruel and unusual punishment" clause needs a bit more clarification. Personally I think lifelong incarceration is inhumane, and it REALLY isn't fair to the Taxpayers. I wouldn't mind seeing corporal punishments in public display return to some extent. Make the criminal think a bit harder about what happens if they get caught. And giving them a place with free healthcare, three squares a day, free education, and a plethora of other items that would shock the Conservatives that foot the bill in ignorance; well that seems like a pretty lucrative deal, other than the lack of freedom and privacy.

I have more thoughts but Some of them tend to the radical side of conservatism and I know it so I will wait to let them off the chain.

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I wholeheartedly agree with this. While the Central Bank was always confusing to the general public, I would like to think that (with the education level we possess) the public can handle (understand) the structure, ramifications, and role that the Fed and Treasury have played in our financial demise. What only Hamilton and a very few elites knew, I believe today's public can understand. At least in a number that was proportionately greater than ever dreampt of in days of yore.

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the militias would have to take control of the movement. These militias are essentially the real army now...for there is too much corruption to trust the standing military.

Of course you must be careful, for some militias have a racist agenda. but most militias have a patriotic theme. They would have to organize under a leader. They would also be the ones to penitrate our regular militia, police and security.

it would essentially be a coup. From the inside out. Normal everyday citizens, though storming the capital would be fun...would be too terrified to do it.

I believe the government figured that out and that's why they have this "domestic terrorist" watch. They have already fingured militias as "potential terrorist."

recently I have been researching the OK city bombing. That building wasn't taken down by a single truck bomb. I've compared real truck bombs in the UK to OK city and the damage os far to great for one truck bomb parked outside to have done.

With one truck bomb the damage should have been confined to just the face of the building. Blowing out windows. remember, a bomb explodes in all directions. So much of that energy had to have gone away from the building...over 50% of the energy went away from the building.

half the building went down...instantly. That goes against the laws of physics. Early reports of a number of large explosive devices being found were never published.

TM knew he was a patsy. To save his family he probably agreed to take the fall. He had a loving, supportive family. He died to protect them. His final words were along the line of him becoming a martyr.

Initially I thought he was referring to being a martyr to other "terrorist."

Now I believe he thought that he would be a martyr on the grounds of an innocent man taking the fall.

OK city was a false flag attack. It wasn't in response to waco.

the government told TM what to say. he did it to protect someone...his family. (IMHO anyways)

Terry Nichols is another Patsy who again is most likely being black mailed.

There is no way a single truck bomb took down that building. It goes against the laws of physics.

The government will do whatever they can to keep a real revolt from happening. including false flag militia attacks. That's coming IMO.

We will see a false flag militia attack. The number of militias are growing...and that scares them.

I don't know where, when, or how. But if a militia is accused of some sort of attack, bio, explosive, other...it's a false flag attack by the government designed to shut militias down.

You will occasionally see me qouteing Mike V. he PREACHES No Fort Sumters. Because he sees the same thing that you do. For whatever reason the Administration sees its own citizens as a bigger threat to the national power base than foreign terrorists. (probably because they haven't been able to do away with that pesky little thing called Free speach, and the other one, the right to keep and bear arms.)


If there were conspiracies within the 911 and the OK bombings, and I am not saying there were or weren't, that will eventually come out into the light of day the same way that the Gulf of Tomkin did after Vietnam. Granted that one drummed up national support for a short time even though it was a literal paper black flag event. It never happened except in the media.
NO FORT SUMTERS
NO MORE FREE WACOS.

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