America Rising, a great video !

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Irate Nation

"When a government betrays the people by amassing too much power and becoming tyrannical, the people have NO CHOICE but to exercise their original right of self defense- to fight the government"
Alexander Hamilton

It didn't take PTB long to move it, but I think that I found it again. Here it is... I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=662R2awSwPQ

We know that they afraid of Democracy.

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It is fast approaching.

Now, the PTB are lining up their trusted armies to silence the People FOXNews.com - Democrats Hammered for 'Back-Room' Deal With Unions on Health Care,

and allowing the U.N. to tax us. U.N.'s World Health Organization Eyeing Global Tax on Banking, Internet Activity - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News - FOXNews.com

Just what do you think the U.N. will do to be sure their tax revenues are maintained and even increased?

Get ready people. The time is fast approaching.

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Secessionist Scholars Gather in Charleston

Chris Haire
AOL News
CHARLESTON, S.C. (Feb. 5) -- They could have been just another gaggle of tourists walking down Meeting Street, a typical enough sight among the cobblestone and historic homes of Charleston, S.C. But what they wanted to explore were not the guidebook-endorsed attractions of this old town -- the Market, the Battery, Rainbow Row, the nearby plantations. Instead, they had come to the heart of the pre-Civil War South, the former center of the American slave trade, to discuss an idea that had once been all the rage among Charleston's ruling class: the end of the United States as they knew it.

The 40 or so visitors, most of them men, all but one of them white, were attendees of the Eighth Abbeville Institute Scholar's Conference, a four-day gabfest on the resurgent topics of state nullification and secession. At the conference, which runs through Sunday, a collection of scholars and lay folk will discuss what they see as the decided downsides to living in an imperial-minded, centralized-power-mad American Empire, one in which state's rights, personal liberties and personal connections to the land and fellow man have all but vanished.

South Carolina Historical Society

The South Carolina Secession Banner is shown, courtesy of the South Carolina Historical Society. The banner hung over the table when the Ordinance of Secession was signed on Dec. 20, 1860.

Shortly before the official start of the proceedings Thursday evening, the group left the Francis Marion Hotel, the site of the conference, and headed to the state historical society to view the South Carolina Secession Banner and the Ordinance of Secession, the document declaring the Palmetto State's exit from the Union following Abraham Lincoln's election in 1860.

Leading them was Donald Livingston, a professor of philosophy from Emory University and the founder of the Atlanta-based Abbeville Institute. The institute was named after Abbeville, S.C., the birthplace of John C. Calhoun, the former U.S. vice president and defender of slavery and advocate of secession. Nary a Confederate-flag accessory was to be seen on the group, though, and there's a reason for that.

"Secession is for everybody," Livingston says.

Indeed, the intended message of the Abbeville conference is just that.

Reese Moore for AOL
Professor and Abbeville Institute Scholar Donald Livingston, center, speaks with conference participants on Thursday. "Secession is for everybody," Livingston said.

While there are certainly neo-confederates in attendance -- such as Jim Hanks, the former head of the South Carolina branch of the League of the South -- there are plenty of others who in no way are affiliated with those preoccupied with the Late Unpleasantness.

Take for instance conference speaker Yuri Maltsev, a professor of economics at Carthage College in "the People's Republic of Wisconsin." Maltsev feels he knows the dangers of an over-extended and debt-ridden empire all too well: He was born and raised in the former Soviet Union.

"The Soviet Union was definitely 'too big to fail,'" he said. "It had 11 time zones, one-sixth of the world's surface. And it failed miserably. I think that what would be interesting to discuss is 'too big not to fail' because bigness is not necessarily a good thing. Bigness in many cases leads to excessive centralization, depriving people of their liberty.

"We have a government that is spending like a drunken sailor," Maltsev added. "This is a slander against a drunken sailor because he spends his own money."

The specter of a heavily centralized national government also troubles Kirkpatrick Sale, a left-leaning scholar, neo-Luddite and founder of the Middlebury Institute, a pro-secessionist think tank in Vermont. Sale is also a member of the Second Vermont Republic, a group that hopes to one day return its state to its former status as an independent nation. For him, it's no surprise that the conference attendees would include those on the both sides of the ideological spectrum.

"There has always been a part of the left that has been anti-authoritarian and decentralist," Sale says. "And then there are anti-authoritarians on the other side. Ayn Randian types, Paulists types. But that's the guiding principle: the anti-authoritarian impulse."

Of course, the presence of men like Sale and Maltsev will do little to persuade some from declaring that the conference and its attendees have merely opted for a more-erudite, better-mannered white power movement. Livingston himself is a former member of the League of the South, which has drawn accusations of racism from groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League, and the Abbeville Institute's Web site quotes a historian decrying the ignored "achievements of white people in the South."

The racism question has been a divisive (if perhaps inevitable) one for the secessionist movement. In 2008, Thomas Naylor, the head of the Second Vermont Republic, dropped his earlier measured alliance with the League and called on it to disassociate itself from hate groups. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, Naylor wrote, "[s]o long as the albatross of racism hangs around its neck, the LOS can never be a truly effective partner for SVR," adding that the Second Vermont Republic "risks being tainted by the scourge of racism simply by associating with the LOS."

That risk would appear to extend to the scholars at the Abbeville conference, but at least one attendee had resigned himself to that. "Unfortunately, and no pun intended, we're going to get tarred with that brush anyway," said Stephen Heiner, an Asian-American MBA student who had traveled to Charleston for the weekend's festivities. He added: "From everything that I have seen, I have never had the sense from any of the events that I attended that I'm with a bunch of people that hate other races."

For evidence of secessionism's mainstream potential, he pointed to the overlap he discerns between its philosophical underpinnings and those of another crowd experiencing momentum of late: "buy local" consumers. "As we see government expand more and more these days -- OK, we're going to pay for everybody's health care, we're going to pay for all the bankers to holiday in Switzerland, and everyone has to pay for it -- people are looking more to local things," Heiner said.

Still, Heiner believes that any moves toward actual secession are a long way off. People may be suffering today, but just not enough to make that happen, he says.

"They're going to have to get a whole lot worse before secession is viable. Because you have to have pain to look at a political solution like that."

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Sounds familiar. Seems that I have heard that on this sight on occasion.


Oh Yeah, I keep saying that.


Not trying to ring my bell or anything here but truth is as truth will be.

We ain't seen nuthin yet.

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The world was here first, it owes you nothing. Count yourself fortunate if you get all you've earned. Count yourself a thief if you get what others have earned. Count yourself a parasite if you believe you're entitled to it.-Mark Twain

secession will probably not come however a civil war is very possible. I don't see things remaining peaceful much longer.

We already know things will get a whole lot worse in a very short period of time. There will be a second economic collapse and a draft if we expand the wars in the middle east.

on top of that inflation is gonna hit like a hammer this time. People are ready under the thumb. They can't take much more.

You are right about the Secession thing. I got accused of much on another blog site for stating just what you have. There are many brave keyboard warriors these days. People who are clueless about the ramifications of such moves. When the shooting begins, they will be the first scared little chickens to head for the woodshed. No, such a move by the People will not solve a thing but to force this Government into harsh and real reactions. It would give the Gov. the illusion of legitimacy, and surrender the 'high' road to the oppressors. People need to think, and think hard about this secession thing. The hard times will find us without extreme measures on our behalf. All we have to do it to wait. This will all come to us.

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Feb 24 07:58 PM US/Eastern
By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Senate voted Wednesday to extend for a year key provisions of the nation's counterterrorism surveillance law that are scheduled to expire at the end of the month. In agreeing to pass the bill, Senate Democrats retreated from adding new privacy protections to the USA Patriot Act.
The Senate approved the bill on a voice vote with no debate. It now goes to the House.

Three important sections of the Patriot Act are to expire at the end of this month. One authorizes court-approved roving wiretaps that permit surveillance on multiple phones. A second allows court-approved seizure of records and property in anti-terrorism operations. A third permits surveillance against a so-called lone wolf, a non-U.S. citizen suspected of engaging in terrorism who may not be part of a recognized terrorist group.

Supporters say extending the law enables authorities to keep important tools in the fight against terrorism. It would also give Democrats some cover from Republican criticism that the Obama administration is soft on terrorism. Republicans have criticized the administration for trying terrorist suspects in civilians courts, rather than military ones, and for trying to close the military-run prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Some Democrats, however, had to forfeit new privacy protections they had sought for the law. The Judiciary Committee bill would have restricted FBI information demands known as national security letters and made it easier to challenge gag orders imposed on Americans whose records are seized. Library records would have received extra protections. Congress would have closely scrutinized FBI use of the law to prevent abuses. Dissemination of surveillance results would have been restricted and after a time, unneeded records would have been destroyed.

"I would have preferred to add oversight and judicial review improvements to any extension of expiring provisions in the USA Patriot Act," said Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. "But I understand some Republican senators objected."

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

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